We Want Flawed Heroes! Except for the types that we don’t want

I may have touched on this before, but I’m not sure if it was a post or comments.  I’ve been pondering the flaws in heroes and people’s reactions to this.  Not just the reactions, but the demand for heroes to be imperfect.  During this thinking, I looked at a few statements.  Tell me which one doesn’t seem to fit:

  1. I hate perfect heroes.  They should have real world flaws.
  2. Real heroes don’t cry.
  3. That character is always getting angry, which makes them a lame hero.
  4. The hero isn’t real if he/she needs help from others.

Uh . . . What?  People may disagree, but I’m going to say that #1 doesn’t fit.  Why?  Well, it’s obvious to my current thought process.  That’s what people claim to want, but then many will turn around to despise a character for certain flaws.  Luke Callindor gets a lot of heat for crying, complaining, and proving that he’s still maturing.  Even in Beginning of a Hero where it’s established that he’s totally green and inexperienced.  The series toughens him up, but it isn’t really a straight line.  Don’t even get me started on some messages I get when Nyx has to be saved.  Not like she doesn’t do her own share of rescuing and ass-kicking.  My point here is that it really does seem like many people want flaws in characters, but get annoyed when they’re given what they asked for.

I wondered why and I’m going to stand on an old statement that I’ve heard a few times. A friend once said that we hate fictional characters who embody our own weaknesses or those traits that we fear.  For example, a person who cries too much or finds the act a sign of weakness will be soured on a hero that has no problem letting the tears flow.  Our personal preferences and beliefs always factor into our reactions toward fiction.  Most times without us realizing it.  Hence the demand for something that may be met with dislike.  Guess you should be careful what you wish for.

Here’s another point that I’ve been mulling over for several months.  All of this ‘hated’ archetypes and character traits exist in the real world.  We have whiners, selfish jerks, damsels in distress, manipulative jerks, and all the others that we find it so easy to look at with disdain.  So if we want our fiction to mirror our reality then we have to accept that there will be characters who possess the flaws that we dislike.  Some of them might even be heroes or hold an important role in an adventure. Otherwise, our desire for ‘real’ and ‘flawed’ characters are rather empty and I do include my own requests.  Though I’ve tried to stop doing that ever since I came to this realization.

So, I do have a simple, yet difficult question.  Do you really want real, flawed heroes of all types or do you have a more specific idea in mind?

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Turning the kaleidoscope

M T McGuire's avatarM T McGuire Authorholic

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Today I bring you a guest post from my cyber buddy, A.F.E. Smith, fellow member of the Guild of Writers Who go By Mysterious Initials, who is dropping in to say hello to you part of a blog tour to launch her first book. Darkhaven is out soon with Harper Voyager (Yeh, I know big few trad pubbed! She is my ritziest guest ever). In fact, it will be released in ebook format on 2nd July for £1.99 or $US3.99.  As well as the blog tour there’s a giveaway and a scavinger hunt and a big launch event on Facebook today, Thursday 2nd July! Oh yes, it’s all go. More on that story … later.

But first, without more ado, let’s welcome A.F.E. Smith…

“There is no such thing as a new idea. It is impossible. We simply take a lot of old ideas and…

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Another one in the bag . . . I really should stitch up the hole in this bag

Dr. Evil Meme

Dr. Evil Meme

I actually finished Charms of the Feykin a.k.a. Book 11 this morning before racing around to finish errands.  Supposed to get a storm tonight, so need to finish computer stuff and then the night is outlining or something.  The last one was about 10 minutes long, but I know the one time I don’t act like I’ll be forced off the Internet will be when I have to row myself out of the house.  Plus side of this victory, is that it’s just in time for my son to start his half days and getting next week off.  Probably be a father/son zoo trip in our future.  Depends on the heat.

This first draft completion comes with extra weirdness.  Not that I’m still not 100% certain about the release of The Merchant of Nevra Coil since I’m never sure of what’s going on with that.  There is a sense of wandering since this is the start of my summer editing extravaganza that will cover Books 9-11.  It’s that I only have 4 books left of Legends of Windemere.  Book 12 is the final temple and then everything heads for the grand finale.  Still uncertain about a few titles:

12- The Spirit Well
13- Ritual of the Lost Lamb (not very intimidating)
14- Path of the Traitors
15- Return of the Blood-Soaked Baron (No idea if this is right. Had a great one and lost the file during that computer crash)

I’m really heading toward the end here, which is both exciting and scary.  Can I really leave these characters behind and move on to another series?  Will people want to move on after the ending?  Will I be pigeon-holed into this one series?  How long do I wait until I tackle the next one?  Should I drop to 2 books and a few smaller works every year?  Where do I really want to go with this?  Can I stop typing questions in this post?  Have I lost everyone yet?  Who will be the one to try and answer all of these?  Why is Batman and Peter Parker never in the same place at the same time?

Well, I’m off to do something.  I have Book 12 outline to glance over while Book 11 is fresh in my mind.  Then I have the project that gets a post on Thursday to fiddle with.  Fun, fun, fun.

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Teaser Tuesday: The Mercenary Prince Unleashed

As usual, there may be spoilers ahead, but I’m trying to limit those.  This is a fun encounter from Book 9, The Mercenary Prince.  Gets to show off Delvin’s new toy and how he’ll be during his spotlight book.  WARNING: I haven’t edited this at all.

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Get your Runaway Smile Tee-shirt here (or Design your Own)

Nicholas C. Rossis's avatarNicholas C. Rossis

The awesome tee shirts below are courtesy of Alexios Saskalidis, of 187desingz. He designed them for the Runaway Smile Book Presentation last week. Michelle gave me the idea of sharing the design with all of you, so that you can print your own tees, if you so desire.

So, just take this Runaway Smile Adobe Illustrator file to your local tee-shirt printers and voila – one Runaway Smile tee-shirt (mug, hoodie or whatever else you can think of) for you!

If anyone prefers to buy it online, I’ve also set it up with Zazzle, so you can order and have it delivered on your own front door. Even better, Zazzle allows you to order it in 126 different varieties and qualities, from long sleeve to hooded sweatshirt, and from sizes that range from maternity to infant!

There are two options available; with the logo in either black or brick red

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First Post Challenge

This is an odd one that Silver Threading hit me with when I wasn’t doing anything.  Can’t do any writing with the little guy running around.  To be honest, it doesn’t take much work like some of the others.  More of a copy/paste and brief intro, so it’s better for my mindless mood right now.  Here we go:

Here are the rules:

  • Copy-paste, link, pingback or whatever way you want to, your first post.
  • State what type of post that was. E.G. Introduction, Story, Poem
  • Explain why that was your first post.
  • Nominate 5 other bloggers. Five because I know the pain of opening a lot of tabs at once.

Welcome to Windemere

Seriously, this was it.  My goal was to make my blog all about my writing and this was my introduction.  Very little attention hit this thing, but how often does a blog have an amazing first post?  I had a schedule, a brief tale of what made me start, and no pictures or links.  Very basic.  It took a while to get into the groove of things.  That’s really it.  Kind of a plain intro that makes sense given the goal of the blog.

Nominating!

John W. Howell

Nicholas Rossis

C.S. Boyack

El Space- The Blog of L. Marie

S.K. Nichols

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The Epilogue Book

Spongebob Epilogue

Spongebob Epilogue

This is a fairly coming thing to appear in a series, but it’s usually just a chapter or a 5 minute movie section.  Unless it’s ‘Lord of the Rings’ where multiple endings make you feel like you’re being tricked into stretching your legs.  People want some closure and a brief view of what happened after the final battle.  Did the heroes truly live happily ever after or fall on bitter times?  Everything straightened up into a neat package.  That’s kind of what I plan on doing with Legends of Windemere.

There is another version that I’ve stumbled onto recently.  Best thing I can call it is the ‘Epilogue Book’.  This is an entire book that takes place years after the main adventure and gives closure to the main characters.  I’ve noticed this is done a lot with heroes who fall on hard times or have a run of bad luck.  They look for that last piece of glory or regain a lost item.  I guess it’s to get them a happy ending or to bring them back to their center.  Kind of like a fallen hero finding redemption.

Personally, I think this is a difficult story to write because many readers might have been content with the first ending.  It can carry a sense of the author not letting go even if that’s not the case. It really is hard to justify overturning a character’s life when they spent several books earning their finale.  This is probably why I don’t want to attempt it right now.  There are a few characters that can get spin-offs and one that could feasibly get another series, but I don’t know about having one lose what they fought so hard to gain. I torture my heroes enough.  That’s just personal preference.

So, what do you think of epilogue chapters, Epilogue Books, or even knowing about the fate of characters after they defeat their enemies?  Does it depend on the heroes?

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#MondayBlogs: 6 Must-Have Tools/Apps For All The Writers And Editors Out There

Shannon A Thompson's avatarShannon A. Thompson

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Being a writer is tough work, but there are ways to make writing easier on you. Today’s guest blogger, Ashley Sanford, is listing just some of the many tools writers can use to improve their writing. Whether these tools help organize you, keep you focused, or edit your grammar, these tools are bound to help some writers out there! So, if you’ve used one, let us know what you think, and if you haven’t used one, let us know which ones sound like something you would use. And—of course—if you have any additional tools you know about, tell us about them.

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6 Must-Have Tools/Apps For All The Writers And Editors Out There by Ashley Sanford

As easy as it may sound to some people, writing is a difficult task and requires complete dedication of the writer. While you need a certain level of interest and skills to become…

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Call for guest posts

Want to be a guest blogger or have a new book to promote?

Elizabeth Hein's avatarScribbling In The Storage Room

You may have noticed that I have been far less present in the blogosphere lately. I’ve gone back to work full-time and have far less time and energy to do much more than eat, sleep, and write. I enjoy this blog and interacting with you all, but I can’t keep up. I’ve played with the idea of closing down this blog, however, I don’t really want to do that. Instead, I would like to open it up to more guest posts.

Do you have a book coming out soon? Consider writing a guest post for me to share here. Do you simply have something you’d like to say? Consider writing a guest post here. I plan to have two guest post spots available each month. If you are interested in guest posting, contact me at elizabeth (@) elizabethhein.com and we can talk about it.

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Happy Father’s Day!

Happy Father’s Day!

 

That’s all.  Enjoy your day.  Here’s a pic:

Morning HairAnother since I proudly should show myself with the little guy:

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