The Challenge of Writing Exes that Don’t Hate Each Other

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I’m not sure if I’ll be writing tips or just a regular paragraph discussion post because I don’t know what to really say.  Writing Mab and Clyde was a challenge because they had such a long history.  They’d loved, broken up, and went back to each other, which means they already found a way to put the past behind them.  It’s almost like you missed out on another story, but it’s really one that isn’t as interesting to tell as War of Nytefall.  The two of them were actually your standard vampire thief couple, which is a reason why their new status as Dawn Fangs is played up as life-changing.  This really doesn’t help with the subject though.

Whenever we read about exes, it tends to be messy or played up for comedy.  One of the former pair is commonly some kind of a jerk and the other is played up to be the victim too.  You’re made to take a side in this broken relationship.  If anything, the writer makes it utterly clear why they broke up and whose fault it is.  You understand the past and are given enough info to be satisfied while getting the snark that is constantly thrown around when they interact.  This isn’t always the case since there are times when the exes work together and harbor feelings.  It’s made clear that they will reunite too.  Personally, I think this plays similar to the new relationship where both people are fairly dense about what is going on.  Still, these are the two common paths for writing exes who don’t despise each other.

Clyde and Mab were a challenge even though I would put them in that second category.  I needed to find the right balance of insult hurling and anger over past mistakes with the respect and trust of their partnership.  That really wasn’t easy because many people don’t think you should ever work with an ex or interact with them at all.  So, there’s already a slight uphill battle here.  I have been surprised by seeing people complain about movies, shows, and books that have exes acting friendly with each other.  It’s almost like people take offense at the idea that a split can happen amicably.  Can’t say that’s entirely far-fetched considering that’s usually the case, but it’s odd that this is an arena where suspense of disbelief is harder to achieve for many people.  It means there’s a bigger hurdle to get over and it depends a lot on the story and characters.

So, what are some tactics?

  1. Do not overplay the ‘we used to be together’ antics, which include comical arguments about past incidents and verbal jabs about the same.  After the 5th ‘he sucked in bed’ joke on the same page, it will feel like the speaker is harboring a really big grudge instead of having moved on.  Make these things happen from time to time, but also fit the scene.  Give the memories a trigger such as a failed attempt to be nice or seeing another couple.
  2. Focus more on the present than the past with these characters.  They are still working together and being friendly because they’ve mostly moved on.  You need to make sure the audience believes that things have been settled.  This means having them talk more about what they are doing and making a few conversations fairly simplistic because the characters might be trying to stay on topic.  It’s a common tactic to focus on the business side of a relationship to avoid thinking about how it used to be.
  3. If you really want to touch on the subject, use the other characters that are aware of the past.  They can comment on the exes’ interaction and connect it to the past.  It could be done to hint that they think a reunion will happen or that they are baffled about how the two can get along.  Considering how uncommon it is for exes to stay friends, it isn’t too shocking to see others wonder about how one former couple pulled it off.

That’s really all I can think of.  A lot of the Mab/Clyde stuff was created on the fly, so I just let them work it out on the page.  That might be why it gets a little messy between them since there’s some confusion on their part.  Hmmm, that’s probably a topic for another day.

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Cover Reveal: A Time Traveler’s Theory of Relativity

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I love cover reveals, especially the ones in which I get to participate. The marvelous Nicole Valentine, whom you remember from this guest post, is back with the cover of her middle grade science fiction novel, A Time Traveler’s Theory of Relativity (Carolrhoda Books/Lerner) due out October 1. Nicole is represented by Linda Epstein.

Take a good look. Drink in the greatness.

Now, let’s talk to Nicole.

El Space: For quick facts about yourself?
Nicole: I love falconry and want to train my own hawk or falcon someday.
I am a technologist and author, but I also used to design cross stitch samplers! They were from the vantage point of famous classic characters in classic literature.
I also knit and I used to be the Chief Technology Officer of a site called Craftopia.com which was great because I got free yarn.
All our family pets have literary…

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The 2019 Interview Series Featuring Jacqui Murray

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JMurray--early for TF interviewWhat is your work schedule like when you’re writing?

I primarily teach grad school online so much of my non-writing time is spent preparing for the classes, grading, or interacting with my students. Other than that, I do a lot of freelance work revolving around technology in education, writing for corporations, ezines, and other online websites

You’re invited to a dinner party are you:

Off in a corner talking to one or two people—I’m probably chatting with a few people but doing more listening than talking. I consider myself rather boring so enjoy digging into the interesting stuff others do!

bear trapWhat common traps do aspiring writers fall into?

Thinking they don’t need some sort of guidance with their writing is a biggy. I’ll give you an example. There are tons of genres in writing and each has a set of rules that make the genre what readers expect. One…

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Teaser Tuesday: An Unexpected Encounter #vampires #fantasy

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Here’s another War of Nytefall: Lost teaser.  Highlighting another character who doesn’t get a lot of attention here.  Stephanie Talon is fun to write, but she’s a tough one to fit into scenes due to her utter devotion to Nadia Sylvan.  Hard for her to function without her precious master right now.

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Free Story: The Lucky Bastard

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*** Read Infinite Waters for free on Kindle Unlimited ***From the blog of Nicholas C. Rossis, author of science fiction, the Pearseus epic fantasy series and children's books

In April 2018, I posted my thousandth post on this blog. To celebrate, I started sharing here all my short stories. Every couple of weeks, I’ll be posting one story from my celebrated Exciting Destinies series for you to enjoy. With over 30 stories so far, I hope you’ll have lots of fun in the coming months!

This week, it’s “The Lucky Bastard,” a story from Infinite Waters. Click here to read some more free stories.

The Lucky Bastard

The low-lit bunker was as quiet as an old grave. The kind of grave the entire world would be like, if I didn’t stop the upcoming apocalypse. I glanced at the stony-faced people in the room. Uniforms of all shapes and colors surrounded me. A clean-shaven aide pushed a briefcase onto the table. His hands shook with a slight tremor…

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#bookrelease: MURDER IN PLANE SIGHT by Julie Holmes

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Ciao, amici! I have a treat for you today. Long-time commenter and first-time guest Julie Holmes is releasing her debut novel: Murder in Plane Sight. I’m super excited to read this one, but even more excited to introduce her here today. Please join me in giving Julie a warm welcome.

Julie, I’m so glad to have you here today. Now, take it away!


Staci, thank you so much for hosting me for my debut book
release!

So what does one write in book release posts? How I came up
with the story idea? Maybe why I wrote the story. Naw, already did that in
other posts.

What about my writing process? Naw.

Oh, how about my origin story. I mean, all superheroes—er,
writers have one.

Like most kids, I played my share of make-believe, from War
(I have 3 brothers) to adventures with dinosaurs. My imaginary pet triceratops
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The History of Mab and Clyde

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War of Nytefall: Rivalry will be a major turning point in the relationship of Mab and Clyde.  I feel confident in saying this because anyone who read the first book or stuff about them on this blog knows how they interact.  There’s a friendly, playful tension that stems from their long history and former romance.  It’s clear that there are still some emotions there, but I’ll get into that another day.  This post is about the history and origin of the ‘Mab/Clyde’ relationship.

I talked about Mab and Clyde in their own origin posts way back in February of 2018.  I mentioned that they were characters used by me (Clyde) and another player (Mab), which rolled into an odd history.  We didn’t exactly plan it before the session started, but we began arguing about old heists and bad dates.  Just bringing up childish slights at the oddest time and talking about how one used to be more romantic or something.  It became clear that the characters had dated long before we began using them.  Once we accepted this, we played it up a lot and sometimes got a little crude.  Mostly, we shot snarky one-liners at each other during tense moments. It carried all the way until we stopped using them.

The humor and fun of this type of connection carried into the books, which resulted in a strange back and forth.  At first, I made them a couple right off the bat, but this resulted in losing the playful humor.  Not sure why I didn’t see that coming.  I then tried to have them be exes that still respected each other and worked together, which kind of worked even though I cut out the sexual tension.  It was almost there, so I did the obvious path of making a wrong decision.  This is when I made a few versions where Clyde ended up with the Vampire Queen and Mab was just kind of there.  It worked for a while until I switched to Windemere and realized that Mab had no role beyond ‘female badass’.  There was no real depth and growth to her during this stage.

I hated to admit it, but a lot of it depended on Clyde and he wasn’t going very far without her.  He was the monster on the edge and she was the angry former thief.  Nobody else was drawing other aspects out, so I put them together again.  From Mab, Clyde gains an anchor for his humanity and a partner who understands him better than anyone else.  From Clyde, Mab gained a partner who could draw her into a role that is more than a greedy thief and give her a chance to show some compassion for another person.  They were both incredibly selfish when apart, but shed that issue when put together even as non-romantic partners.  That’s where they’ve stayed ever since.

To be honest, I never really thought out the specifics of their history.  Both were thieves who stumbled onto each other and decided to work together.  Their partnership blossomed into a rather animalistic romance since Mab and Clyde are both fairly id-driven.  They’ve gained a lot of self-control over the decades.  Anyway, they made the gang to help gather more money and to allow them to work with some friends (Vengeance Hounds and Chastity) that they made.  This group grew pretty big and even stayed together after Clyde as caught in bed with Chastity.  Mab went off on her own for a bit to clear her head, but came back because it was still her family.  It is strange how her and Clyde continued to be partners after that, but Chastity admitted to her trickery.  So, she took the brunt of Mab’s anger while Clyde was targeted by snark and the occasional pummeling when he’d piss her off.  This is why War of Nytefall: Loyalty starts with Mab and Clyde still being partners and caring about each other.  Guess some emotions are hard to kill even with vampires.

So, that’s basically the history.  Bits and pieces will continue coming out, but one might never know the true picture.  Mab and Clyde are much more about the present and future these days.  Guess immortality means you don’t look back very often.  Hope this is enough to answer a few questions.

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This Week in Indie Publishing

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Want to Turn Your Comic Book Idea Into a Million-Dollar Business? Here’s the First Step

Comic books are kind of a big deal these days. Total revenue for the comic book publishing industry in 2018was estimated to be $865 million, and that’s not counting peripheral sources of income from merchandise, or high-profile movie deals. I probably don’t even need to tell you thathalf of the top 10 grossing films of 2018were based on comic books, and 2019 is already on the same track for comic-related film popularity (with no real end in sight).

That said, the average comic book fan or aspiring artist may not have much faith that their nerdy pastime could be worth millions of dollars. After all, it’s challenging breaking into an already-saturated industry, especially if you don’t have much experience. But if you think about your hobby as a business, and…

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The Stigma of Mental Illness

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So, I might be short and to the point here.  Mostly because I know I’m going to get a pretty big workout in the comments.  My opinion has also been stated here a few times, but I felt like bringing up the topic once more.

One of the most interesting things that I’ve noticed over the last year is that there is a lot of shame attached to mental illness.  Some by the sufferer and others by those who think they are helping.  I’ve always wondered why this is, but it feels more or more like the stigmas are built into society.  Don’t let them know you see a therapist.  Why?  Because you’ll never get a job, get married, have kids, or be able to do anything.  Never reveal that you’re on medications.  Why?  Because you’ll never get a job, get married, have kids, or be able to anything.  It’s like people with mental illness are being asked to ‘not be who they are’, which makes the problem infinitely worse.  Imagine struggling with anxiety and then being told that your anxiety will cause all these problems, so you need to hide it.  Now, you’re anxious about revealing that you’re anxious.  It’s just emotionally and mentally destructive.

Now, I mentioned therapy and medication in there too.  The strangest thing is that these are actions that show an intent to get a handle on one’s illness.  Yet, we use them as marks of shame.  People who go in for chemo or have to use an inhaler for asthma aren’t treated like this.  The reason might be because those are physical diseases, which are easier to wrap our heads around than mental.  I wonder if there’s a fear when it comes to mental illness too.  A person might push for someon to get better quickly because then it means it isn’t that big a deal if they themselves have one.  There’s no infection when it comes to these things, but helping a person with severe mental illness can trigger ones in the helper if they are stressed too much.  If you can convince a person to get over their depression then maybe you can do it too in the future.  This is ridiculous, of course.

Honestly, I’m just throwing ideas out there because I really can’t see the point in stigmatizing mental illness.  Especially these days when you have the Internet and more connections than ever.  It’s easier to trigger a breakdown because of some jackass online or to indulge in certain harmful activities.  If anything, society should be pushing for these issues to be brought to the light and teach more people about them.  Maybe have a time in high school where students learn about things like depression, anxiety, etc. and get to share their thoughts.  Make it a discussion class and try to eliminate the stigma with the younger generations.  Just a thought, which has some downsides because you don’t want to upset anyone who is currently suffering.

Anyway, what do you think about the mental illness stigma?

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Choosing your Audiobook Voice

This covers a lot of ground for something that many people might overlook.

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As audiobooks are the fastest-growing segment in publishing, I have been researching that market. One thing I realized is that choosing a narrator is probably the most important decision you make when you turn your book into an Audiobook. People who love audiobooks may buy your audiobook because they like your work, your genre, your cover, or your price. When they actually start listening to your audiobook however, one of the most important factors to decide whether they’ll continue listening to the end, is the quality of the reading.

So, how do you choose the right voice? Leaving out the financial aspects (if you can afford to pay the narrator the fee he is asking for or if you choose a royalty scheme), there are a few issues to take into consideration, from “demographics” to acting performance. Here are a few tips.

Demographics

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