Conclusion to the Smashwords/B&N/Amazon Issue

So, that chaos has undone itself and I learned a few things that other self-published authors will find helpful.

  1. Smashwords puts your book on Barnes & Noble and they have to be the one to take it down.
  2. It takes 1-3 weeks for Smashwords to take down your book after you unpublish with them.
  3. Smashwords works on business days (weekends not included in deadlines) and Kindle works on all days (weekends included in deadlines).

The moral of the story is this: If you are on all of the sites and wish to go KDP Select, you have to make sure you are off all the sites before signing up.  I didn’t know about the Barnes & Noble page, which might have been mentioned in the original contract and I forgot.  Either way, you have to make sure you are off Smashwords and Barnes & Noble before going KDP Select.  So, an author can give them a shot, but keep in mind that it takes at least a week to get off.  In fact, I would still recommend giving them a shot for a first book because if you can pull off what I didn’t then you will be in a better position.

Will I go back to Smashwords?  I don’t know.  I’ve heard of a lot of authors have success on there.  I’m not one of them and I tried.  It seems that it took me going KDP Select and running a free weekend to get Nook users to start sending me emails.  The problem is that if I go onto Smashwords again with my books then I’ll have to drop them and put them back every time I go KDP Select.  It’s something to think about.

About Charles Yallowitz

Charles E. Yallowitz was born, raised, and educated in New York. Then he spent a few years in Florida, realized his fear of alligators, and moved back to the Empire State. When he isn't working hard on his epic fantasy stories, Charles can be found cooking or going on whatever adventure his son has planned for the day. 'Legends of Windemere' is his first series, but it certainly won't be his last.
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40 Responses to Conclusion to the Smashwords/B&N/Amazon Issue

  1. ioniamartin says:

    I am sorry for all the drama you have had to endure! I hope it is smooth sailing form here on:)

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    • Me too. I have to admit that I feel a little bad about getting so angry at Smashwords. Not sure how smooth things are going to sail. The book sales are slow, but I just need them to keep some momentum for the second book.

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      • ioniamartin says:

        You may find out after you have a couple of books out that the sales for all the books increase because you start to get fans of the series and more exposure.

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      • Definitely. My goal is still to have the first 4-5 books out before Christmas. Jason told me that a 3 month gap between books is pretty good to maintain a constant momentum. The gap will grow as I catch up to the finished books though.

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  2. Something else to remember is that KDP Select membership runs in quarters. So if you wanted to put it up for a short time and then go back to other channels, you have to wait until the quarter ends. Once I opted out of KDP, it took almost three months before I was officially out of the program.

    Either way, I think you will start seeing a lot more success when book 2 comes out. So until then, relax and just remember you’re about to be a two-time author!

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    • Thanks. I won’t be able to put the books on Smashwords until the end of July, so that gives me time to see if I want to go back. After all, selling only 4-5 books through those venues doesn’t make the hassle of removing them for a KDP Select run worth it. Nook is really the only big one that I miss out on due to iPad having a Kindle app. This is one of those confusing parts of self-publishing, isn’t it?

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  3. tpolen says:

    I hate you had to go through all this trouble and know it must have been aggravating, but is it entirely selfish of me to be glad I was able to get your book from B&N while it was on there?

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  4. kdillmanjones says:

    Reblogged this on She Whose Name Shall Be a Blog and commented:
    While considering whether or not to use Smashwords myself, this has been really helpful.

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  5. C.N. Faust says:

    I guess if you are in KDP select, you cannot sell the books directly from your website, either? That would be helpful if you could like, convert the books to .EPUB (nook format) and then sell them from your website and sell the Kindle versions through KDP Select. Why does Amazon have to make everything so difficult?

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    • I can’t say I blame them considering what KDP Select is. They bought advertising money toward me when I sign up, so it would be bad business for them to do that to someone selling on their competitor’s sites.

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      • C.N. Faust says:

        Fair enough. How about print paperback consignment in local bookstores? Is that an option right now?

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      • I had to look this up, but it says “When you choose to enroll your book in KDP Select, you’re committing to make the digital format of that book available exclusively through KDP.”

        Think paperbacks are in the clear going by that sentence.

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  6. Papizilla says:

    Reblogged this on The Ranting Papizilla and commented:
    Interesting ordeal Charles went through with Smashwords. Authors, check it out, did you have the same things happen, or was your experience smooth?

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  7. katemsparkes says:

    Glad it’s sorted out for now (and that I got it on my Kobo while it was still on Smashwords!).

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  8. mrschmoe says:

    Sounds like you had hit a snag. Glad that it’s sorted out. Sometimes things have a way of spoofing on us, on a individual level.
    When going self publishing, I will keep that in mind

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  9. kingmidget says:

    Seems to me that using both requires different marketing strategies. I put my novel up on Amazon and Kindle (not KDP Select) and on Smashwords. Sold two copies on Smashwords and couldn’t figure out how to crack the nut there. I eventually took it off, went KDP Select, offered a couple of free days, and “sold” almost 400 copies. “Sold” because about half were free downloads from Prime members which actually earned me a little more than the 70% of my $2.99 download price. If anybody has ideas about how to develop sales through Smashwords, I’m all ears.

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    • That’s kind of what happened to me. I did a bunch of marketing and it netted me 2,800 Amazon sales in 2 months. I only had 25 on Smashwords, but 7 were the free sample and 16 were from a free download week. I really do wonder how to break into that, but I’m also wondering if I should fight for it. Always a possibility that getting popular on Amazon could cause a lot of Nook and Kobo users to request it. Supply and demand at its evilest.

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      • kingmidget says:

        Some day I’d like to hear about the promotional efforts that led to 2,800 sales. I did a Goodreads giveaway and the two free kindle days.

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      • I did a lot of Twitter, blogging, and FB stuff. I used a group of on-line advertising sites like GoodKindle, AskDavid.com, Bookpinning, Novelspot, and Kindle Mojo. Once I got my book on an Amazon Top 100 List, it caught fire and shot off. I think a major key is to get on one of those Amazon lists. My book is also .99 cents, which probably helped.

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      • kingmidget says:

        Yes, for a couple of glorious days my book was near the top of the Legal Thriller list for the Kindle. Alas it didn’t last long enough for 2,800 sales. :(. I’ll need to check out those other sites you mentioned.

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      • kingmidget says:

        One more thing … I’ve struggled with when to go to .99. Your 2800 sales at that price netted you a little more than my 400 at 2.99. Do you include in that 2800 figure any lending library borrows?

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      • I didn’t get into the lending library until I joined KDP Select. So all of those are full sale.

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      • kingmidget says:

        Just registered on askDavid. Will see what happens.

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      • Great. Hope it works for you.

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      • Oh and I tried to find places to do author interviews. I also made friends with the authors of WordPress and we help each other out. That sense of community is an amazing support foundation.

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  10. Kira says:

    This stinks that you had to go to all the trouble! But I think you have helped a lot of other writers by giving them this information 🙂 I wonder why they make it so difficult to get your stuff off of them?

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  11. keladelaide says:

    Hope the wait is less than anticipated.

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